Tuesday, December 27, 2005

Why Do Women Hate Us??

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I've lived most of my life in the Middle East. I talk to people, stay up to date with blogs, etc. It seems to me that women hate men here.

Sure, in the UK, you get tons of feminists and that. You even get the wacko crazy militant feminazis we like to make fun of. You don't get them in Oman (although if this were a freer society I'm pretty sure you would), but it seems to me a lot of the women in Oman have a strong feminist streak, perhaps a bit stronger than common sense would dictate. I'm talking about situations where women make judgements about situations without knowing the full story, naturally assuming that its the man's fault, sometimes to the point of ridiculousness.

Whyyy the hate? Is it something we've done? Actually, it probably is. In my experience I've found out that what Newton said is true: every action has an equal and opposite reaction. The feminazi was probably raped by her father as a child. Similarly, the self-proclaimed feminist, whos proud of being overly feminist, was probably hurt in the past by an ex-boyfriend, or something similar, right?

So is this a Middle East trend, or a global trend? Thats what I'm trying to assess - are ME women MORE prone to excessive feminism than, say Western women? Opinions would be appreciated.

Posted by illogicist at 2:37 AM


  1. Blogger Samyah posted at 12/27/2005 04:59:00 AM  
    If we go by Newton's laws then its pretty obvious; women here would probably hate men slightly more because opression is still very much widespread as are other gender injustices. Though, I don't think we're that much different from western women really.

    Come to think of it there's a certain GUY I'm pretty annoyed with at the mo'...
  2. Blogger Abs posted at 12/27/2005 09:32:00 AM  
    lol, if u ask me, they probably read a lot into men. specially omani men. after all women are women dude. You never know when the fuse will blow.:D

    I've never understood women, and neither will you matey, so let's just give up.
  3. Blogger Soul Rebel posted at 12/27/2005 03:38:00 PM  
    I think you need to be careful about assuming why people gain certain understandings in life. It has been my experience that people respond to oppression in certain ways. Someone who is anti-racism may not have experienced KKK racism personally, but has enough life experience to know that racism exists. The same is true for gender based oppression, and has little to do with issues of personal sexual assault, domestic abuse or getting f'ed over by a boyfriend in the past, but rather the system that keeps it all in place.

    "I'm talking about situations where women make judgements about situations without knowing the full story, naturally assuming that its the man's fault, sometimes to the point of ridiculousness."
    The same can be said for men. Case in point, lets say a woman is at a club, and she meets a guy, they decide to leave the club and the woman gets sexually assaulted. Many people would blame the woman in this instance wouldn't they? After all its her fault...*rolls eyes*. How many times has a woman been called all kinds of foul things just for living her life, and doing what many of us take for granted? Hell, I can go into a list of things that the Islamic community in my little farm town said about moms when she was in the process of getting her doctorate, which were the exact opposite of what they said about pops when he was getting his masters.

    We make a lot of assumptions on issues based on our past experiences and biases. They are not always correct however. Women will get annoyed with men for a variety of reasons (some for good reason). Men will get annoyed with woman for a variety of reasons (some for good reason). It happens, most of the time its not hate, its miscommunication and misunderstanding. Everyone likes to blame everyone else for their problems, be it those who are oppressed or those with privilage.
  4. Blogger PizzaQueen posted at 12/27/2005 08:18:00 PM  
    We Arab women are oppressed !
  5. Blogger NiGhTFaCe posted at 12/28/2005 02:21:00 AM  
    I find myself being hard on them sometimes, though I dont really mean it. So no wonder if they started to hate me :S
  6. Blogger illogicist posted at 12/28/2005 02:59:00 AM  
    SR: Yeah, you are right..the Newton's Law thing applies, but I suppose its not the only relationship (maybe the most direct one tho). The Islamic Communities in my city can be a little crazy as well for the record, which is why I tend to avoid them.
    It also depends on your personality of course. I know people who's parents have had divorces: always traumatic. Some have gone into breakdown, some are stronger as a result.

    @abs: yeah, will never understand 'em...half of me says I shouldnt bother trying, the other half says I have no choice!
  7. Blogger PizzaQueen posted at 12/29/2005 12:46:00 AM  
    I mean, men are meaaan!!!
  8. Blogger Rhubarb posted at 12/30/2005 08:35:00 PM  
    You're not serious are you?! Women as a gender are generally not man-haters. I find it quite concerning that you equate feminism with man-hating. Perhaps you should delve more deeply into the meaning of feminism.

    I for one am a self-proclaimed feminist, yet I embrace my man-brothers with an open heart and mind...
  9. Blogger illogicist posted at 12/31/2005 11:04:00 AM  
    You're right Rhubarb, I should have made the distinction, clarified what I meant to say a little better! Feminism isn't the problem - feminism is a good movement and I'm all for it (not commercialized feminism which is basically sell your body, rebranded). I meant the particular girls who seem to hate men in general. Feminist wasn't the right word to use, but the problem is, in this situation, the lines are slightly blurred.

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